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That we have actually gotten more intelligence out of mosques in america and mainstream muslim communities than anywhere else. so, again, it's about, you know, groups like isis, victor, they are trying to destroy this gray zone of ko existence between the west and the muslim -- society. it's important for western societies to further embrace their muslim communities so we do not, you know, create more lone wolves like we saw in san bernardino. >> good to have you as part of the conversation. >> my pleasure. any time, man. >> sure. here in the united states, a person with legally obtain as ma...

Can hamas, in the foreseeable future, be moderated and brought to the table to negotiate a two-state solution with the israelis? >> by becoming a member of the coalition palestinian government, a minor member of that coalition, hamas, in effect, is endorsing the position adopted by abbas, the leader of the palestinians, which recognizes israeli, which recognizes the notion of ko existence between two independent, but friendly states. this is a big change. they don't have to say it because it would be a humiliating rejection of their past. >> is that coalition falling apart between the palestin...