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And look. why does it matter? on the margins, all about turnout. >> it is. and in many ways, in this campaign and a state like north carolina, it's about the white vote more than the black vote. in ways look at what obama was able to do in 2012, 80% of eligible black voters showed up voted 97% for obama. he did terribly with white voters there. the hillary clinton campaigns they can keep that obama coalition together, draw out african-american supporters in the saum way and do better with white voters. some of whom are in places like greensboro, mecklenburg county, charlotte, more urban areas....

Conversation, a little more of the president. this is personal for him. trump the cheerleader for the birther movement. yes he wants a democratic successor. but there's more to it you can tell listening to the president. >> he might be up at i guess 3:00 a.m., because he's tweeting at someone that got under his skin instead of sleeping to be ready in the morning to do the job of the president of the united states. >> he's having fun. >> he relishes this and shows the power of the clinton campaign surrogates. you know, donald trump does not have anybody advocating for him. they're at war with h...