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Wanted to pursue. he feared backlash. clearly, he hasn't gotten much cooperation for that compromise in principle, but we're able to see that he's willing on his own, he's issuing environmental rules, issuing immigration rules, why give up on this either to placate the right wing and finally do the right thing, use this frort the senate as finally an excuse to prosecute the people who he had been closing his eyes to the crimes until now. >> let me play you this bit of an interview, dick cheney who spoke today on this and it's not surprising what he said, but it does reiterate the fact that all...

That this exists. the senate confirms that there was a contract, a $180 million contract, that the firm received $80 million out of that. after 9/11, as james mitchell says in this interview, he made a phone call to someone who was managing one of his contracts. he said something should be done, and this person on the phone said to him, how can we ask anyone else to do something if you're not willing to do it yourself? so it appears that at that moment that was sort of the start of getting involved in doing something. he said he wanted to be part of the solution. and apparently that solution m...

Because this is a classified program and they never should have reported on it. my colleague who kuk econducted interview did challenge him on that. he said the act itself is not to blame. mitchell took a step back and said it's a shared responsibility. but you know, he is someone who absolutely believes that these techniques were effective. he also disputes the fact that he received $80 million. he said that's absolutely not true. would not give the amount that he received or what his company received, but, you know, he's very, very defensive of this. he also wanted to point out during this i...

Back. >> that's the craziest thing is in this bizarre way -- i want to be clear that sony didn't bring this on themselves because they made this movie. i want the make it clear that i don't think that. i don't think anyone thinks that. they're distinct questions. but in a weird way, now more publicity for the interview than you could ever possibly have imagined. >> right. i think that's small comfort to them at this point. >> right. >> because whatever money they made will be wildly eclipsed by the amount of money they'll have to spend rebuilding their systems. but there's probably people insi...

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