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Not on randomized war mongering around the world. i'm interested in what the think the gap is. is there an 18-year gap. are we 18 more years until we break up the banks? >> great point. as you and i have discussed on the show, dylan, we have areas with 80/20 or 90/10 political positions and they still pub public opinion. i think there is also a an action gap. what i mean by that is when symbolism is what we are looking for and it matters in kul tier and discrimination and equality, it is easier for politicians to wake up, as i said, bill clinton did ten years later that people want this and to...

200, 400, 800. if you have integrity. why is the integrity of what we are doing with this process so important? >> well, because people have to understand that there's no ul tier ulterior motive here. you're not running for president, you're not trying to become a senator or some important figure. you're a citizen, you're a citizen politician. and we need more of those. people look at ordinary politicians, most of them and they say, look, we heard it all before. you treat us like charlie brown and you're lucy. every time you talk about reform, just as you get in office, you pull the ball up an...