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Thought was nuts. the theory was also completely nuts. it was a combination of italians, germans, different things have been flowing around. this dude was evolved, hugo's job is from venezuela, he has an affidavit from somebody, something with the philippines -- just all over the radar. >> did you ever share, mr. kushner, your view of mr. giuliani, about the president? >> yes -- >> police said. >> it was basically not the approach that i would take to advise you. >> how did president trump react when you share that view with him? >> i have confidence in rudy. >> i think i had conversations wit...

To give me any feeling that there was really substance here. >> for the first time since the election, the attorney general spoke personally with the president on november 23rd. this is at the white house. let's play the video please. >> on november 23rd, i had not spoken to the president since the election. in fact, as i said, since the middle of october, roughly. it was getting awkward because, obviously, he had lost the election, and i had not said anything to him. so, they said i think it's time you come over here. i came over to meet with the president in the oval office. meadows was ther...

>> i don't know that i had a firm view as to what he should say in that circumstance. the results were still being counted. >> did you ever share, mr. kushner, your view of mr. giuliani? did you ever share your perspective about him with the president? >> i guess -- yes. >> tell me what you said. >> basically not the approach i would take if i was you. >> but, as you know, trump did take the giuliani approach against the advice of his son-in-law, though he seemed reluctant to tell anyone that. and some other top advisers. >> we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this ...

About his efforts to overturn the 20 election. i want you to take a listen. this is what his daughter and son-in-law had to say when asked about rudy giuliani and suggests he outlie p d. >> i don't know if i had a firm view of what he should say in that sirk. the results were still being counted. >> did you ever share, mr. kushner, your view of mr. giuliani, did you ever share your thoughts with him about the president? >> i guess -- yes. >> tell me what you said. >> basically not the approach i would take if i was you. >> those comments follow testimony from ivanka last week saying she accept...

And beyond and who he turned a deaf ear to. >> there are suggestions by, i believe it was mayor giuliani, to go declare victory and say he won it outright. >> it was far too early to be making any calls like that. ballots -- ballots were still being counted. >> i don't know that i had a firm view as to what he should say in that circumstance. the results were still being counted. >> did you ever share, mr. kushner, your view of mr. giuliani? did you ever share your perspective about him with the president? >> i guess -- yes. >> tell me what you said. >> basically not the approach i would take ...