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They got from assad that they got from russia. so russia is going to be a major player in this. >> so how does forgiving them for their malevolence make it more likely they will help you. >> but, chris, prior to the press conference, and i do think the president could have been stronger in the press conference -- >> stronger? >> he has criticized russia. he said russia was behind the meddling a number of times before. he's absolutely said that. when putin came out, he even said that trump was challenging him on a number of these fronts that i discussed just a moment ago. you need that first me...