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Correct? >> correct. >> were you waiting for them to finish so you could continue on with what you had to do, which at that point became transplanting -- transporting him? >> correct. >> that was your reason for at it waiting around. >> genocided if they were going to transport or not. >> how was that decision accomplished. >> the paramedics. >> were you there, listening? >> i could overhear bits and pieces. i was pushed back because there was a crowd around the doorway of the car. >> including the paramedics. >> a crowd of paramedics. >> gotcha. mr. zimmerman is in the back seat of your car. ...