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A rocky relationship with the president's people, as connected to the base? and i think that he needs to have some folks surround him who will be more focused on the real problem, and that is the republicans, the people who are trying to take down this president. nancy pelosi thinks the republicans will show the american people just how out of touch they are. >> i do think that we should sit back and let the country see what they are all about. we have told people, but people don't believe that they don't believe it. that they think that medicare should wither on the vine and that social secur...

And ultimately in the united states? >> well, we'll see if it gets -- we'll see how it gets to us. there are actually some economists that are arguing that it doesn't get to us. i'm not sure i'm a believer in that argument. i think the larger piece people are waking up to this morning, the reason why the futures here in the u.s. are down, the reason why the markets in europe are down is this realization that maybe, maybe this is really just a bridge to nowhere, as they might say. >> harold? >> can you explain for everybody, when you say the realization, the fundamentals, most people woke up th...

♪ sometimes you win sometimes you lose ♪ welcome back to "morning joe." just after 7:30 on the east coast. you have pleasantly surprised me. >> i am. i'm trying to get healthy. >> that's good. you should finish that. >> yeah. >> it's time for a quick look -- it's healthy -- for some of today's top stories. british prime minister gordon brown is resigning as leader of the labor party. the dramatic move is meant to clear the way for a labor and democrat liberal coalition that would effectively block conservatives from retaking power in britain. if that happens, brown will give up his post ...

And over again? it's not the fact that they outgun us in the electronic media, it is a messaging issue, and gis that you could ask the question, where is our flank luntz? that's hard for me to say, folks. i know what the heck i'm talking about, but i'm not connected at the hip to the white house and i'm not connect to the hip to the president. if he were to ever ask me how to beat those -- i'd tell them. see i didn't say that word tonight, did i, but i'm still thinking it. the president needs surrogates. if this is what gibbs' going to do, this is a great move. but if gibbs takes off and rides...

The president, i think, is as hard as a reformer. we just got to get the white house on track. and then lower the temperature and that can be best be done with somebody who really approaches someone with respect and interest and even if that interest doesn't necessarily coincide with what they i believe. >> does it concern you that the chamber of commerce, mr. donohue gives a ringing endorsement? what do you make of that? >> i think that the chamber's basically funding armor of the republican party so i think that they're kind of irrelevant in the debate. they can spend a lot of money. they ha...