With certain news outlets. >> and you -- >> again, that's kind of in the domestic realm. >> you said the russians will continue this behavior until we impose some significant costs. could you speak briefly to what sort of actions you think we might take that would deter them -- >> well, that's -- >> -- from this action? >> that's over my labor grade as intelligence guy. i thought the sanctions we did impose on the -- and i was part of that as part of the former administration, were a great first step. >> well, i'll simply say i agree with you and a bipartisan bill led by my colleague, senator ...