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Equal pay instead of just saying another labor issue. saying these are gender issues. is that smart politics? >> it is very smart politics. i bre gujingly give my hats off to nancy pelosi for framing the argument this way. it goes back to the point i was just making. so you have house republicans tonight voting on an abortion bill and the former speaker of the house talking to women about pay inequities and creating opportunities and finding a level playing field for them to break break glass ceilings which goes back to the point this is a sweet spot for the go, it should, particularly when it...

We've got the grow the game. now, there are some complex legal issues, so even if the suit loses. >> you have to go to arbitration. >> the important thing to know is that that concussions around the serious issue and the analogy i make is that yes, that huge cigarette lawsuit won, but remember all the ones before that lost? when they were losing, it doesn't mean that smoking was a good idea or safe, so concussions are a big issue. this is perhaps a symptom of it, but it could really get the nfl moving and changing. >> the irony was that today in court, the nfl's attorneys were the ones arguing...

Granting citizenship? i think that's where the strong opposition is really bubbling over in the house and at the state level. you go to arizona, to the rural districts, people are saying begrudgingly, okay, we'll so something, but hell no, we will not give them citizenship, or if we do, we're dg -- >> and say wait for 25 years. >> the 25-years concept is what it is. >> crazy. >> it means nothing. it doesn't have any sway in the party. >> it's that tern, that fear. >> but that devil in the details exists for democrats as well. don't think this will be a free and clear opportunity for democrats....

>> i think it's national, too, adam, i'm not sure what the situation is in san francisco, but they're a little bit more elitist sometimes than new york city. >> yeah, you know, i'm not sure of my facts here, i don't think we have a wal-mart in san francisco, and i don't think it's a -- it's a labor issue necessarily. this is very similar to our last conversation, i mean, every-- i agree this is not a national issue, people in new york are-- >> and making the choice. >> wal-mart, they're making to make it-- >> let adam finish and it then we'll pile up on him. go ahead, adam. >> i don't think, b...

Situation is in san francisco, but they are a little more ahead of new york city? >> i'm not sure what the facts. i don't think we have a walmart in strand and i don't think its labor issue necessarily. this is similar to a last conversation. i agree this is not a national issue. people in new york -- walmart. >> they are trying to make a national issue. >> let adam finish. >> i don't think this is particularly fair to walmart what is happening in new york city. having said that the opposition to walmart is sincere. yes, it brings down prices. >> when you say it's unfair to walmart. what about...