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That reads that "the coronavirus with all its random possibilities took the rare and unnatural combination used by human researchers implied the leading theory for the origin of the virus must be laboratory escape." this may not be a smoking gun about the smell is certainly hanging in the air now. >> you can't see the smoking gun because the room is on fire, those researchers were part of around a dozen researchers that we collaborated actively with in the private and academic sector in addition to working with our various laboratory experts and the information and the evidence provided "the w...

Can come up with but you should at least ask. >> bill: it could have happened randomly through mutations but do you believe that? at the minimum this fact that the coronavirus with all its random possibilities took the rare and unnatural combination used by human researchers implies the leading theory for the coronavirus must be laboratory escape. will we ever be able to prove it or does that come back to beijing and the communist chinese government? >> you know, we do a lot of things in courts with circumstantial evidence and come to very significant conclusions based on those. i think we hav...

Covid came from a lab. this is a sequence commonly used in gain of function research which we know for a fact was happening at the wuhan lab. the really damning part mueller says the dna combination in coronavirus's has never been found in nature as they write at the minimum this implies the leading theory for the origin of coronavirus must be laboratory escape. those two scientists join me now. professor emeritus professor of physics at the university of california berkeley, let's start with you. you say there is a second key piece of evidence pointing to a lab leak explain that. >> the conce...