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Reported. i've talked to health departments in the last several days where they are weeks behind in reporting cases. a daily case count means low. what we need to focus on and what we're getting on in terms of seriousness, how many people are hospitalized, particularly are requirements for oxygen. that's going to be a lagging indicator, meaning seven to ten days offset from the cases themselves. it's going to be the best measure we have. right now, that's what people like myself are tracking is what's happening with hospitalizations, and as you see, we've now got over 100,000 hospitalizations ...

Yesterday 2,500 people in this country died of covid-19, hospitalizations spiking in some places. i know it is different by region. we have to stipulate again most of the people who die from this right now are unvaccinated. so from your view where are we in this pandemic? >> look, parts of the country are rapidly improving. other parts of the country probably are reaching their epidemic peak when you look at the mountain states, parts of the southwest, deaths are unfortunately a lagging indicator. deaths will continue to go up as infections go down. when you look at the mid atlantic, florida, ...

Late spring, early spring, early summer -- what are you thinking? >> based on all the data we have right now and what the trends look like, i would not be surprised if we were lifting restrictions by spring. >> reporter: still, while cases continue to drop, new covid deaths, a lagging indicator, are climbing. a painful reminder of the devastation the pandemic continues to cause. >> on that final day, her father and her sister and i stood with her as she had her last breath. >> reporter: after beating cancer, 41-year-old jessica estep was left immunocompromised. the newly wed mother of two was ...

Soon. she says there's no magic number when it comes to vaccinations that would put an end to remediation efforts. it is something schools everywhere are wrestling with in all different ways. jake. >> thanks so much. joining us now to discuss, dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, you heard former cdc director, dr. tom frieden say he's the most optimistic he's been since the pandemic started. do you share his optimism, or is it still too early to say that we're almost out of the woods? >> i think there's a lot of positive indicators here. i think there's a lot of people who share this optimism if you just...

Unvaccinated americans. the deaths are a lagging cater, and there are encouraging signs. new infections are starting to decline. that may signal the worst is behind us. nationwide, the u.s. is averaging about 650,000 new cases of covid per day, a big number, but 17% drop over the past two weeks. joining me now with more, dr. perry wilson, associate professor at yale university school of medicine. hi, dr. wilson, great to see you. we have been here before, it looked like the worst was over, then came delta, then came omicron. what is your sense of where things are right now? >> i know, the sens...