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Right now as clearly the politics have shifted, there's exhaustion across the country, what data and metrics should state and local leaders be paying attention to when they're making these decisions? is it the positivity rate? you noted yours is down but still elevated from what people thought was a high point in 2020. is it vaccination rates? what metrics should people be keying on before they make these decisions? >> i think we need to put it altogether and see those trend lines for a significant period of time. i think we look at previous troughs, previous lows and times where we thought, o...

Day. when is that going to come down? >> it will come down. and we know this because we know that deaths, the number of deaths is what we call a lagging indicator. that first we see cases rise and then hospitalizations and then deaths. and then it is going to be the other way around. so now we're seeing cases and hospitalizations drop, we'll going to see the daily death numbers drop too. but this is unfathomable. and it is unimaginable that we've looking at 900,000 americans that have died and the hundreds of thousands of people that have died since vaccines have become available. the unvaccin...

For us in d.c. thank you. four days we've been warned of a likely cyber attack by the russians as the war ramps up in ukraine. now come word that attacks did increase, more than 800% within the first 48 hours of the invasion. that as you might imagine has american businesses and major banks on high alert. with me now is great to see you again. what do you make of that? we were talking that we be surprised if they want and now they are saying that it went up 800% in the 48 hours after the invasion. >> thank you. as we mentioned last night, this is often something where it's not a leading indica...

Dropped dramatically. still not, look, 134,000 still puts it, as you can see here, still puts it closer to our previous highs than our previous lows, but come on, when you see where we came from, we are dropping and dropping fast. when you look at deaths, this is obviously more of a lagging indicator, you can see still an uncomfortably high number, 2,000 a day. this is starting to now drop pretty quickly here. we should start to see these numbers continue to come down. and all of this is making the public feel a bit more comfortable with the risks of covid. from january to february, fears of s...

That means it's a lagging indicator. we're already probably weeks or in this case months behind in this particular case, it's believed that it was a known vulnerability that has been unpaid for some time that was actually exploited in any of these cases. so by the time it publicly disclosed, it's like coming to the crime scene and trying to put things together after the fact. yeah, my colleague has a question for you as well. yeah, eric, i'm interested. it seems to me that we have been warning about cyberattacks for so many years. we had a u.s. government official in fact, a couple of years ag...