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Fallen dramatically in the last two weeks. and so ultimately, as i have said, deaths, unfortunately, is a lagging indicator, we've seen cases, again, cut in half in mississippi. and these other states that you refuse to talk about, perhaps because they have democratic governors, you don't want to talk about them. but the reality is, you and the president and so many other people want to make this about politics. >> the governor of west virginia is a republican. >> not just attacking republicans in red states. this virus is not just attacking republicans in red states. this virus is attacking r...

You seem to be very, very activated when it comes to fighting the mandate from the federal government. and i understand the arguments you're making, but what president biden is trying to do is save lives. now, you can think it's bad policy, or it's unconstitutional, and that's fine, we can have that discussion, we already have, but he's trying to save lives. i'm saying to you, your way's not working, and whether you say it's a lagging indicator, or whatever, your argument is, mississippi now has, if it were its own country, the second worst per capita death rate in the world, behind only peru....

About west virginia or kentucky, i'm asking you about your state. you seem to be very, very activated when it comes to fighting the mandate from the federal government. and i understand the arguments you're making, but what president biden is trying to do is save lives. now, you can think it's bad policy, or it's unconstitutional, and that's fine, we can have that discussion, we already have, but he's trying to save lives. i'm saying to you, your way's not working and whether you say it's a lagging indicator, or whatever, your argument is, mississippi now has, if it were its own country, the s...

>> let's talk about where we are and -- jake, let's talk about where we are, and why we are there. in large part, just like the summer of 2020, it was the sunbelt states that saw the initial surge from the delta variant. it started -- the first state that i saw seeing upticks was missouri, and then it was arkansas, and then it was louisiana. and now it's mississippi. our surge went from less than 100 cases per day in mississippi to 3,600, much like what happened in the country of israel, much like what happened in the country of great britain and england. we saw a very quick spike, and now we'...

And -- jake, let's talk about where we are, and why we are there. in large part, just like the summer of 2020, it was the sun belt states that saw the initial surge from the delta variant. it started -- the first state that i saw seeing upticks was missouri and then it was arkansas and then it was louisiana. and now it's mississippi. our surge went from less than 100 cases per day in mississippi to 3,600, much like what happened in the country of israel, much like what happened in the country of great britain and england. we saw a very quick spike and now we're seeing a very quick decline in t...