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New york city murder rate is 5.9. bakersfield, which you just mentioned, is 11.9. fresno, california, 14. jacksonville, jacksonville, florida, 19.7. that is three times the per capita murder rate of new york city, and so to your point as people, as republicans are trying to lamb baste anybody who is not soft on crime, they have a store toy deal with in their own backyard. even senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was calling judge jackson soft on crime. kentucky ranks where in crime? >> they're third. they have the third highest murder rate in the country. if the rest of the country had a mu...

That will delay anything. so that's why a lot of people in his own party think that this is just hurting the party, splitting the party. diluteing their message. that's something i actually asked him about just yesterday. senator what is your end game? you flew from the start, why put congress through this? >> with respect, i disagree with your premise. i believe we can. with we stand together, we will defund obamacare. this was always a multi-step process. >> pifrs, they show this has determination. he is the only guy that will stand up to the big bad senate institution in washington as usual...