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>> i don't think people should be staying in locker rooms but it's good. you have to stand proudly for the national anthem. you shouldn't be playing, shouldn't be there. maybe you shouldn't be in the indust country. >> look, what should the president's role here be? should he be weighing in at all on this particular issue? >> no, the president needs to shut the hell up on this subject because he makes it -- he sounds stupid, and he makes it worse. you know, to infer that these athletes, because they don't conform to his conditions for behavior or showing the kind of respect he wants them to sh...

Doesn't know about it the white house involved to some degree in dang control about this we now learn. and how does lerner decide to let the american public know about it? she decides to plant a question at a conference she's at to answer and she assumes that's the way to let the american public and the congress know about it. congress has been asking her questions about it for a year. it was a lame brained scheme and by the way angers members of congress who had been asking serious questions about this. some are saying she directly lied to them. >> it was on mr. shulman, right? the irs commis...