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Women and these babies are being forgotten. these women who -- i mean, like women in the film, like you just saw, they've been forgotten. they've been, quote unquote, blocked out. i think abortion has something to do with it. we're afraid to talk about it. >> for me, the eye opening part was reading the grand jury report. once you read it, it's not only the horrors that occurred there, but the failures, repeated failures year after year after year of state authorities, and that bears further investigation. david, again, people can see your documentary online. what's your website, david? >> it'...

I think that's a way of trying to -- >> david? >> yeah? >> what do you think about why it hasn't received the kind of coverage it might have otherwise? >> i am shocked that the major media outlets haven't covered a story that is as, for lack of a better word, as sensational as this. i do think it's because we're uncomfortable talking about the issue of abortion. unfortunately, because we haven't talked about it, these women and these babies are being forgotten. these women who -- i mean, like women in the film, like you just saw, they've been forgotten. they've been, quote unquote, blocked out...

That bears further investigation. david, again, people can see your documentary online. what's your website, david? >> it's 30801 lancaster.com. >> joe, i appreciate your reporting and jeff toobin, i thank you. secretary of state john kerry is in south korea trying to tamp down the report of north korea. the north had a fiery message for another neighbor. the power of north korea's propaganda machine. you'll meet a woman still haunted by the brainwashing she said she endured before she defected. matt salmon said he's still opposed to equal rights for gay and lesbians. we'll talk to his son...