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That are irreversible and we're seeing more children come forward and trying to detransition so we need to -- it's very alarming. >> trace: i have one more flat platform on top of that because we talked about this being a bat until the country, in orange county california last night some parents very heated, here's a sample of that and i'll get your response. >> it should never be okay to tell children not to speak to their parents. >> i think it really behooves us to ask ourselves the most fundamental question which will help us understand why this board policy is needed and the question is a...

Sometimes you have to do that. i'll get your answer but here's the nightcap poll. is it beneficial or harmful to criticize your own team, beneficial 57%, look at that the numbers are great, harmful 43 on twitter. >> so they agree with me. >> larry elder wins again. >> i didn't win the california thing but i won that. >> listen, the good news is i just got word you could be in the debate for this for getting that answer so that could put you over the top. jill simonian your thoughts on this? >> oh, i'm tough and i'm mean and my kids will say that i will criticize and, for the sake of giving con...

Violence and more crime. we've had prosecutors that are aren't prosecuting criminals and now mayors that are enabling crooks. we live in very serious and dangerous times. >> reporter: yeah it's amazing you talk about serious and dangerous times we were touching this with larry elder the fact that california is having some problems, so law, who works for cnn tweeted this, cnn by the way has gotten robbed three times up in san francisco covering stories on crime. she tweets the possible, in oakland shooting a story about crime, got broken into again but this time our car was completely empty. we...

Set broughted and she's shag are you kidding me? you're celebrating a tie? nobody sell brats a tie and that was her criticism. >> i agree with the criticism i think but there is a time and a place for everything. so i think the doctors got it right but i think a good-nay steward, come on guys, let's not settle for ties and then dance on the end zone or the pitch, let's act like we've been here before and. >> yeah, i think that's what she was saying. marianne rafferty your thoughts. >> yeah, supposed to be cohesive especially in public and she should have said it behind closed doors and just ha...

That's my reaction to that. >> trace: people forget you're a lawyer, you know what you're talking about. >> not all lawyers know what they're talking about. >> trace: i'm sorry you're a lawyer i pa positively apologize. >> this one does. >> trace: slate says they lost their super power saying simply put time for california to accept reality. there will never be 50 million californiaians as predicted for decades instead it will stall out at 40 million and eventually it will fall behind texas as americas's most populous state just like new york fell behind california back in the 1960s. you can't...