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Full life, full embrace of life. you know, he's a survivor, too. when he had this first operation, i'm among those who wonder whether it was successful as it first seemed, when he had the first operation, he did change his life and went on this diet. he's exercised regularly. and i think if a doctor is telling, now, you have to take it down a peg, i bet he'll do that, too. listen, one thing bill clinton is, he's very smart. and he understands survival very, very well. i think -- and look at -- i think his self-discipline is more than people understand. look -- i can't want to change the subjec...

As somebody who has had a lot of emotions to go through in the course of the day it seems pretty good now. >> larry: thanks, james. james carville, former clinton adviser. we planned to be on tape tomorrow night. we're doing another special show tomorrow night, dealing with bill clinton and dealing with heart disease. i know a thing or two about stents. when we come back i'll let you in on my own health news. don't go away. (announcer) the #1 prescribed acid reducer

Says, "obviously we're not responsible for what other news organizations are reporting. it's not coming from the "times." what do you make of that? >> they said the same thing to me when i talked to them several times and i take them at their word. >> larry: nothing's been printed. >> they didn't start the rumors when they sat down with me for an hour and a half to talk about the profile piece. they didn't not ask me questions about any of this. i would think, look, i'm going to leave for the journalist like yourselves and other analyzers of the media to come to a conclusion. i'm not a journal...

Days. that opens the door for these kinds of scurrilous rumors that only uninformed serio eed sourc produce. >> larry: the question of drug use. have you been ever a drug user? >> i denied that just the other day. when i was younger in my 20s i did try drugs. >> larry: what's your wife -- how's your wife handling all this? how are your children handling it? >> i think my wife sets an example for me. she seems to be one of those people who can walk through walls and has an indomitable spirit. i borrow from her. of course, your children, that's the reason when we were separated that we never rea...

>> larry: perception is reality, governor. if perception is reality do you think you're hurting your party? >> no. not at all. because reality is real. none of this we've talked about is real. by the way, larry, i'd like to say i'm very happy president clinton is recovering. i hope he comes on your show tomorrow to dispel the latest rumor denying i had anything to do with his heart condition. >> larry: cute. cute, david. eliot spitzer was forced to resign. what is with this office and sex allegations? is this part of the new york governor -- never heard about mario. >> i think this is a carryo...