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65 in the united states. the best data right now from israel, and israel actually used 60. if i were sitting here last night predicting, i would have said the fda panel is going to come down on 60 as the cut point because the israeli data is clearest. they picked 65. obviously there's no single magical number, and if you are 63 and want a booster you may be feeling frustrated. let's see what the fda and cdc does in the final recommendations, but somewhere around 60, 65 is a pretty reasonable cut point. >> for people watching this tonight who were vaccinated with the moderna vaccine or vaukted ...

>> does the age 65 cut off seem clearly indicated to you by the data? is that, in terms of how clinical trials are structured in these matters, is 65 the relevant cut off point? is it possible that the data also recommends with a similar sort of risk benefit profile for people aged 60, or aged 55? >> this is a good question. a lot of the trials in the u.s. tend to look at 65 as a cut point for thinking about older people. why 65? 65 is also the cut point for medicare, there's a whole history of using 65 in the united states. the best data right now from israel, and israel actually used 60. so ...