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the tables have turned. >> the idea that jokes aren't funny, it's still very much a thing. >> there are some people who can't get their heads around what they don't know. >> i said i wanted to be a comedian, she said, maybe it's better if you just died. >> i think they thought of women as a different species. >> for view ladies are capable of being a comedian, so everybody sticks by them. here's somebody that thinks they do it. >> this is a great argument that women are doing much better work than men. >> you're welcome. ♪ ♪ when was the hardest -- what's the hardest part about...

[ laughter ] ♪ >> in eight 60s, "lau llaugh in one of the hottest programs on tvs, and the characters we associated with lily tomlin became famous then and turned her into a huge star. >> she was hip. she was not doing material about being a frustrated wife. she was doing character material, and it was new and different and brilliant. >> said you went to college. >> they did? >> i'm not going to college when i grow up. i seen pictures where they shoot you in college. >> her characters were no longer just innocuous, whacky, and weird. they started to become characters with a subtle political ...