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Remains and we are clear eyed about the risks to the united states from terrorism. >> a response to the secretary? >> i don't make any sense of this. did he say it was still in the coalition? we are not. the president said we are out. and so, it doesn't make any sense with a prior army guy, west point, a good guy. but nonsensical to think without u.s. presence, there like 20 groups in there. they support the kurds. without the us, air support, grant support, we are guaranteeing terrorism to expand and syria to become a launching spot. it is the wrong move and we need a smaller number to keep f...

>> it was mccain's turn. >> this is the first election i've been involved in, and i've been involved almost as long as joe. he's a lot older than i am, but since '76 when i supported reagan. >> not a conservative, by the way. >> i supported bush and supported bush. >> why is the party rejecting him if it's romney's turn? >> it's a very interesting situation. this is the first time we don't have an heir apparent in our party. >> romney. >> didn't start out as an heir apparent. >> sure he did. running -- >> running. >> he's perfect for you guys, old and a legacy. >> he's the person with the righ...