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He's pretty far over. >> here's the thinking among those people. they are thinking, we don't love mitt romney. okay. he's a massachusetts moderate. he's trying to make himself a conservative. but if we're going to take him, let's at least have a good politician. let's have a guy who is good at being a politician. if he's not with him idealogically, what grounds are the conservatives going to september him? that's what jonah goldberg and the others are saying. laur inggram, she said is he hopeless? she said, no, he's not hopeless, but he's not there yet. >> look at the rap sheet. i should tell ...

They are thinking, we don't love mitt romney. okay. he's a massachusetts moderate. he's trying to make himself a conservative. but if we're going to take him, let's at least have a good politician. let's have a guy who is good at being a politician. if he's not with him idealogically, what grounds are the conservatives going to september him? that's what jonah goldberg and the others are saying. laur inggram, she said is he hopeless? she said, no, he's not hopeless, but he's not there yet. >> look at the rap sheet. i should tell my story. i'm also unemployed. we could raise taxes on people. co...