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To fire. then the interesting thing that you would ask laura about, the eastern district of virginhavvi u.s. attorney, if the associate attorney general refused to fire mueller, so the deputy refuses, associate refuses, then under the succession order, it goes to the eastern district of virginia u.s. attorney. so he's the third in line who would have to make this decision about whether to keep -- >> what are you saying? >> -- to keep or fire mueller. if you want to be a conspiracy theorist, good luck here. >> what are you saying? >> i want to know what that means. >> that all roads lead to rom...

Mueller, without due cause, or other dereliction of duty. so there's no right for the president to fire mueller. only rosenstein, upon a finding of dereliction of duty or other good cause. if mueller is asked to be fired, then rosenstein has to make a career decision, is he going to fire him without good cause, or is he going to retire. and if he retires, then the succession plan goes to the associate attorney general and then she has to make a decision whether she's going to retire or fire when there's no good cause to fire. the interesting thing that you would ask laura about, the eastern di...