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Characterization'. and this is the reason. i think we can all understand what happens here. in drug cases specifically, as you know, eric, you can have a drug diversion program. in other words, you plead guilty, then you go into the rehab if you are in the successful rehab, six months later your conviction is expunged. the problem is that once you have to plead guilty to get into the drug diversion program. what this law attempts to do is allow you to plead guilty and enter the drug diversion program and get clean and right with the law later. but it's that moment of pleading guilty that makes...

Characterization'. and this is the reason. i think we can all understand what happens here. in drug cases specifically, as you know, eric, you can have a drug diversion program. in other words, you plead guilty, then you go into the rehab if you are in the successful rehab, six months later your conviction is expunged. the problem is that once you have to plead guilty to get into the drug diversion program. what this law attempts to do is allow you to plead guilty and enter the drug diversion program and get clean and right with the law later. but it's that moment of pleading guilty that makes...

They're going after illegals? >> the problem is i imagine he's coming to express dissatisfaction with the way the law was crafted and the fact the law attempts to restate what federal law is. the problem with arizona is that its the tail wagging the dog. with a we're looking at. what arizona law really is, when you get to the bot it's a scream for attention and action. >> neil: you're right there. no one in washington is listing so these guys took matters into their own hands. the unions. >> neil: do you. gotcha. do you think what they're doing is racist? >> i think they have a right to do it ...