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Minnesota said you showed no interest in racial justice. do you wish now that you had done more? >> that's not my record. i am proud of the work our staff did. 400 people in the office. the cases that came to us, the community that came to us, they said there was no justice for their little kids. >> joining us now to discuss, the editor of above the law.com. contributor to the nation as well. the co-host of the podcast, unredacted, and former deputy stand secretary of state, rick tyler and msnbc political analyst, and the president and ceo and msnbc contributor and you happen to be mtk in hous...

>> different topic. >> here's the story we're about to talk about. >> the cover of today's new york daily news saying, hang on, ruth. sentiments echoed by many across the country right now as justice ruth bader ginsburg is doing well after repeating a course of radiation therapy for pancreatic cancer. many wondering how the country would be impacted if president trump is able to name a third supreme court justice. joining me as you saw, fired up as well, is ellie mistel, editor for above the law.com. and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor. thank you guys for being here. >>...

Ultra-elite judges. like all of the clerks. almost all the clerks. i think it's nice he did this. i think we remember supreme court justice not for their clerks. i'm less interested in who he's hiring and more interested in whether he's going to apply the law fairly to everyone. >> shannon: i think we agree that should be the way going to assess her justice. above the law.com, writing the headline is i don't give a flying thing how many women law clerks brett kavanaugh harris. she goes on to write it doesn't matter how many women he surrounds himself with. it can't make me forget the testimony...

-- 28 years in prison. joining me malcolm nance, jill wine-banks and elie mystal, editor of above the law.com. the paul manafort thing bugged me a lot. here is a guy who is unrepentant about his crimes, he didn't help the special counsel as rick gates and others have. he actually continued to lie while he was doing his deal and yet judge amy berman jackson follows up a lenient sentence reading him the riot act and giving him a short sentence. what happened? >> i also wanted to see paul manafort go to jail for the rest of his short life and spend it in agonizing pain. i get the thought process ...

All he has to prove is they told untruths about him which resulted in harm to him. it is a far easier case than if he were an elected official, high government official where he thrust himself into the news and made himself into a public figure. he has a significant chance of either winning the case with the washington post capitulating which they rarely do. in this case they may be better off settling the case and having it litigated particularly in a jurisdiction which won't be necessarily friendly to them. shannon: the governor of kentucky, the commonwealth, i want to read something from ab...