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It's going to be delayed, and like it's not going to occur as expected, and as we get closer and closer you're going to see more democrats like the ones last night who voted against the key provision in the the president's law feeling politically anxious about it. >> you will remember the white house's rational for the medical device tax was it would help the companies because with obamacare, it would increase hospital demand for these devices, there by increasing these company's profits and this was a way for them to give back a little bit. is that argument no longer valid? >> well, it's cert...