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Tom, what are his options? to work with state officials to get a handle on the border? >> yeah, i think he can work with the governor of texas, the arizona governor. entry cuellar is a patriot. i don't always agree with his stances, but let me tell you something, he believes in the secure border. he wants to protect migrants from the death and mayhem they are getting put through by these cartels. he wants texas to be safe. he wants the laws enforced, and he wants some sort of fix to the immigration crisis. if the laws don't work, fix them. he is a common-sense congressman. i don't care if he's...

In the cold in their own filth. it's a disgrace. and we are not a wall away from being better. the reality is the system needs fixes on many levels. it's over capacity, the laws don't work. the materials operations and procedures don't work. the things we need we don't have. it's not just about a wall. protective barriers matter. don't say that they don't. everybody agrees we need them but they're not the one thing that the president wants you to believe they are. focusing on one is false. and it turns our collective face away from the reality. all right? so those are the facts. we're reading ...

Disease. here's the reality that the president doesn't want to own but he's going to have to. these little boys and girls, their parents, they are being treated like animals. actually worse. if we saw this with circus animals living in these kind of conditions, people would go crazy, and it would stop the next day. not with them. shame on all of us. they may not bring new diseases but they're getting sick. they're all hacking, they live in the cold in their own filth. it's a disgrace. and we are not a wall away from being better. the reality is the system needs fixes on many levels. it's over ...

The border legally. so now what you are seeing is everyone who's crossing the border is crossing illegally. which messes up the status of what is going on. what could have been a civil infraction is now going to be a criminal misdemeanor. >> laura: esther? >> absolutely not, that's incorrect. i've been a practicing immigration attorney for 14 years here at the border, this is my hometown. i'm also the daughter of mexican immigrants. what we are seeing is a two-fold process that the trump administration is highlighting. why the laws don't work. not only a loophole for mothers with children but ...

So now what you are seeing is everyone who's crossing the border is crossing illegally. which messes up the status of what is going on. what could have been a civil infraction is now going to be a criminal misdemeanor. >> laura: ester? >> absolutely not, that's incorrect. i've been a practicing immigration attorney for 14 years here at the border, this is my hometown. p i'm also the daughter of mexican immigrants. h what we are seeing is a two-fold process that the trump administration is highlighting. why the laws don't work. not only a loophole for mothersi with children but we have fake fam...