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Is invoked today and the unfairness or fairness of that. i want to go back to that era. we talked about the passage of the civil rights act in 1964 and more broadly the great society. to get a clearer understanding of exactly what the times were like, what lbj's role was in that and clay you have written about this and you say this sort of modern reassessment is getting it wrong and his role in the civil rights act is largely overstated. >> it's overstated, but he also deserves a lot of credit in a different way. lbj one of his smart moves was to let the people who are already running the bill...

The phone with lbj one afternoon saying, no, mr. president, i was there yesterday, i can't come down for a drink, i got to go home. he hangs up the phone, before he goes out of the office, he hears lbj's beagles in the hall. he had gone out, to the car, to the capitol to make him drink with him. that's where the civil rights bill happened. >> that's lamar's story, but i think it is not to say if everybody had a drink together the kingdom of god would come. >> it's not over a drink. everybody gets confused. we don't want him to drink or socialize, we want him to get locked in. >> because we all...

>> i'm not surprised by this poll, although four out of five. it used to be five out of five. people want it to be rich or-- >> and some would have people right now, and angry and bitter. >> listen, in america we know that success is byproduct, it's a byproduct of hard work, sacrifice and smarts, we respect that, we really do respect that despite this massive pr campaign against it and i still hope it back fires. >> neil: ben stein, what do you think. >> the hypocrisy on the part of the democrats is beyond believe. the greatest was fdr, the family eight off gold plates and john f. kennedy, and...