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And get away with them. the expectations for international law changed. >> you think they increased the expectations? >> i think we expect legitimate governments to follow the rule of law. in the past you might have seen law as binding contracts between states. if one state broke the law, another might have the right to also break the law. i don't think that's the expectation now. the expectation is that le jatimate governments follow the rule of law and they adhere to international law and we have seen putin start to back pedal by trying to invent reasons why his intervention is legal. you ha...

It as a job creator and they long vied for less regulation on the energy industry. >> the problem is that the projections on job creation are very wide and republicansing is -- >> 2500 to 5,000. >> that as an argument is note particularly strong. >> you have a lot of unions that do see it as a job creator. you have the environmentalist versus the unions. the one thing i would throw in there is part of the strategy is not only to get the conservative votes to pass it, but it would go forward and puts a lot of moderate democrats in a difficult position. >> the other thing i think we need to ackn...