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>> neil: there's got to be a method to it. they must be saying, bring it on. if you think we can move this guy, kim jong-un, we can or won't, so they're looking for financial or trade war or seem to be tempting us on it. what do we do? >> at this point, the time for incremental measures is over. the time for talk is over. at this point in time, the state department needs to be the lead agency and have sanctions -- >> on china. >> absolutely on china. >> neil: how would you explain it to americans? the fear of prior presidents has been would americans be willing to accent markedly higher prices...

They have not ruled out domestic terrorism. >> they don't know for sure yet because they don't have a motive or suspect. they can't pinpoint that just yet. of course, they are not ruling that out. it's a strong possibility it could be. the fbi is the lead agency on this. at this point, it's not clear what happened here. what we know, though, is investigators have collected a bunch of evidence at the scene. a number of bomb fragments at the air force recruiting center where authorities say someone did detonate a bomb last night. the bomb blew up the front door, it pierced holes and caused a lot...

At this early, it surprises me that they are already saying that this could be terrorism. what is your sense of what's going on? >> some of the sources i have been talking to about this, have indicated that the suspect said something during the attack that triggered the need to contact the fbi which is the lead agency to basically the lead agency to process terrorism incidents. if you step back and take a look at the facts as we know them, here is an officer and an individual that right now, unless there is a relationship between the two of them, reason will say it is unprovoked. it is consist...

Looks to be part of what law enforcement is using. you can get a sense of the lay of the land right now. and what is standing out to you coming from the not only hussein ali, but also the pictures that we are getting live there on the side of the screen, and the third thing that is new in the half hour is that we are hearing the word terror or terrorist being used in both descriptions coming from the mayor of london as well as the prime minister as a potential terrorist attack are the words that she used. >> well, you no, i will go with the third one first, richard. i think that terror or terr...

>> it must and the answer is yes. the challenge is something that we do, it is the most complicated and complex things we do in regards to white collar and dismantling drug networks or catching fugitives for that matter. and the reason why is because it muste done in secret. you'ryre ting get people to talk to you and to come forward with information of value. and the last thing they want to do is be exposed. and that is a difficult thing. there's also just volumes of information that have to be analyzed. and it makes it very difficult to proceed when the spotlight is shining. >> this is trick...