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Out, if that continues to build, that could hurt president obama for 2012 because he's after all the lead dog. this business of -- these people are so out of touch, just get rid of all of them, there's a high risk here for both parties which is why i wouldn't be surprised to either see a last minute don shut down the government or they shut it down for a day or two or three and some agreement. >> wouldn't they be inspired to avoid one. dan, you touch on something, approval ratings for both sides, for washington in general, people are disgusted. wouldn't this ultimately impact not only the econ...

>> brenda: and some of the numbers that we've been showing, actually, have just been base salary. they have not included benefit packages. pensions and the like really have exploded. >> look it, if the federal government being the lead dog in an economy created wealth. then france would be the richest country in the world and it's not. and what the federal government has built in the private sector. the private sector got out of these defined benefit plans which have unlimited pension plans at a fixed number. the private sector went into 401(k)'s, but the government has stayed at 75% defined p...

Student in law school, for example, an activist around lgbt issues that would be enough to keep you out. so it meant there was a second-class citizenship question so i think she did the right thing as a dean by accepting that part of the policy. >> this should be really interesting. you know what's coming. he's their lead dog. the saint bernard of the crowd. >> it's all scripted. >> thank you very much problem if he sore, melissa harris of princeton. up next, america's most famous immigrant. never heard him described that way. arnold schwarzenegger speaks out about arizona immigration law. y...

Science research, they used the solomon amendment to bully in order to force a second class citizenship right and then demand equal access to equal hiring practices. >> i think there's a political aspect to this. this narrative that barack obama doesn't like the military. barack obama is anti-military, not involved emotionally in this war against terrorism. he somehow does the job but he's not a real cop out there or have the attitude you want in this front against terrorism. they're going to use it, right? people like kyl? kyl is always in bed with the neoconservatives. he's always the lead d...

I think there's a sheer political aspect to this. you're a journalist. you know there is. this narrative that barack obama doesn't like the military. barack obama's anti-military, not really involved emotionally in this war against terrorism. he somehow does the job but he's not really a real cop out there. he doesn't really have the attitude you want in this front against terrorism. they're going to use it, right? people like kyl. kyl's always in bed with the neoconservatives. he's the lead dog in these kinds of fights. you can predict that. here he is again. >> well absolutely. what's so stu...