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Wikileaks and it's fascinating, it's scary. and the point at the beginning of the show that we make is if there's anything that impacts this election between now and election day, it could be wikileaks. >> what do you think of julian assange? >> a fascinating compelling, interesting character. starting from his beginnings in australia. his stepfather led a cult. we start off in this cult environment. brilliant paranoid guy who has a lot of power. the squeeze is on him. he's in that embassy that cut off his internet. there's a new leader eer in he wa ecuador coming in. >> speaking of wikileaks,...

Remember. gunny was just like i said. a selfless leader eer give you shirt off his back. hardest worker in the battery. alwaysaccomplish. everybody loved sully. they respected him. it is a huge loss for mat reasons that he served with, especially for his family. and i'm just heartbroken over this. >> yeah, understood. that's completely understandable you. know, mike, i know he received, two purple hearts. how many tours of duty did he serve? >> my understanding, after 2002, we both went separate ways. but we kept in touch over the years. but it is my understanding that gunny served four tours,...