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Have millions of immigrants not be able to become permanent residents and eventual voters. there is their way to eventually have minority rule, a country a majority of people of color in the future. >> this traction perfectly with the next question i wanted to ask the professor which is you've also done a lot of the politics on this. i wonder what you think about the politics here after the president has had let's be clear, rough times even by his standards you know, this convicted sex offender that the trump administration was an us could of having staff too looent lenient on, then mysterious...

Tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free. the idea is pretty simple. america is where some of them might get to cop for a better life. not that the door to america sk completely shut unless you already have one. with that we turn to our expert panel it, leah rigore, mary executive director of the national immigration law center and washington anchor catty kay. mariel elaina, your thoughts? >> thank you, ari. as an immigrant from colombia and a lawyer, it is deeply offensive to sear acting director cuccinelli talk about this as self-sufficiency. the fact is that this is the cou...

Going to need to rely on certain types of safety net programs whether it's unemployment, whether it's nutrition assistance, health care, whatever it is. these are anti-poverty programs for that very reason. they're anti-poverty. they're meant to help people make ends meet when they're facing a hard time which was my own family's experience when we first arrived in this country in the 1970s from colombia. >> leah, listen to the president on all this today. >> maybe there ought to be a different poem on the statute of liberty. do you think that should be saved? >> i don't think it's fair to have...

For donald trump? we may point to 2016 but we can look at 2018 and see that this idea of the so-called hoard, this myth of the hoard, the fear of the hoard didn't pan out. the caravan didn't play out in his favor at the ballot box. what it ended up doing is creating, you know, playing a role in the increased frenzy and rhetoric around race that had devastating consequences but politically, didn't seem to -- didn't payoff for him. >> leah and marie elaina, thank you both. have i one more thing in new york for katty kay. that is steven miller. steven miller has maintained a tremendous amount of ...