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Jumping into the fray and started discord, you know, engaging in all kinds of battles, unnecessary battles with the very agency and agencies he should be working with. it's representative of an administration that really is not taking any of this seriously. but that also is giving very little oversight and attention to the real concerns. and instead has decided that this is a political -- you know, there's political capital in turning this into a fight with the very intelligence agencies that are supposed to support, support the white house, and support national security within the united stat...

>> you know, i think she hit the nail on the head there with the fact that veterans, folks like myself who have been to iraq twice and especially families of the fallen, our gold star families among us, should not be used as political shields and it's happening all too often these days. what we really need to do is slow ourselves down and really think about the sacrifice. look at the images on your screen, ari. we need to spend more time focusing on that, and the supports that presidents give to families of the fallen, it comes in all different types. what we really need to do is support organ...

Recognizing troops who we've recently lost in a surprise in africa, we went quickly to politics and i think that that's honestly a shame. >> leah, you look at this, it was an address from john mccain last night at a time that we all know is difficult for him and his family as he battles for his life. it was really rooted in history and an alternative vision of america. >> absolutely. i got to ask you, ari, where is the lie? this is what was so powerful about this speech last night which is that it called out all the things that the nation has been wrestling over, been fighting over, that have ...

So far, he seems to be saying to the nation, i'll not a leader. i just troll a lot. and some people are tired of being trolled and want to drop out and turn away from the news or politics. experts say the key to avoiding burnout is approaching trump or all politics in a mindful way. author robert wright offering outrage feeds trump while activism can affect how he got elected. our special guest on game theory and buddhism. and leah wright, thank you, both, robert, what kind of activism do you think both works and avoids this burnout? >> well, i think mindful activism does. first of all, in the...

Prevent burnout. kit make you more emotionally resilient but to leave 30th sells it short. i think being mindful, and to some extent i mean in the everyday english sense of the world. being attendant to relevant factors. being mindful on social media can help you engage in a way that is more constructive from your point of view. and if you are an point of trump's, as i am, it can keep from you being emotionally reactive in a way that feeds his narrative, and i think consolidates his base. >> you use that word and barack obama is known for being very deliberate and thoughtful and mindful. and l...