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Explanation? >> i think it's sound. if you're sitting united states senator you're not calling shots day to day on how the trump campaign is being executed, that's not your role. show up at events and so on. but not operative on behalf of the campaign. so i take jeff sessions at his word on this. i really think that in terms of his meeting with him in senate capacity, just wasn't on his mind when he responded to the question. >> hilary, why are you laughing? >> first of all, we don't know what the conversations were. and you know, i think there's a bigger picture here. look, you've had experts...

Officials? all he had to say, sure, met kislyak in my office, at republican convention. talked about syria, disagreed about the ukraine. no fire there. >> in my capacity as senator. >> but he lied or misremembered. michael flynn lied to the vice president of the united states about the nature of his communication with kislyak which was done on the telephone. mike flynn former head of the dia. himself a spy, not knowing that nsa would be listening to that, big mistake. only question i have is why are they covering up, misremembering or so promiscuous with the facts as to their interactions with...

Happened? if they had meetings, i don't think they by themselves amount to a lot. really the question is was there complicit with the russians, anything to suggest promises were made about what would be done after the election. >> that's not what he was questioned about in the confirmation hearing, he was asked did you meet with russians or have conversations. >> but that's reason the question is asked. i understood it to be surrogate in campaign as you accused me of. did i do anything improper with regard to russians and answer came back and he acknowledged and president did that language cou...

Franken who went into great length saying that day some new story had come out and said that various trump surrogates were meeting continually with russian officials as part of the campaign. and he raised that question with me and my answer went straight to that. it was first time i had heard that. so i focused on that i had no had any such meetings, not meeting with russian officials on continuing basis to vns any campaign agenda. sometime before that i had met in my office in official way with the russian ambassador so that was the answer i gave and i think it was honest answer tucker. >> ri...

Sessions. secondly, they changed their story in the last few hours since the story initially broke. the jeff sessions spokesperson changed the story about what exactly was discussed. initially they said he couldn't remember what was discussed in the september conversation. then the administration official put out a quote late last night saying they did discuss the election, it was perfunctory, just in passing. now this morning jeff sessions is remembering everything and saying he didn't talk about the election. the changing story is another basis to question this. lastly, he was not just asked...