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And we're pleased to be in the middle of this debate, we're also very aware that edward snowden himself has put himself on the line. essentially he's torn up his entire life and he said he never expects to go back to america. so we're kind of aware of the difficult position that he's in. we're going to be following that closely. there's no sense of sort of gloating or sort of euphoria around "the guardian" at the moment. >> ed, you have also covered bradley manning who's also been accused of leaking documents. do you expect this to become -- do you expect there to be more leaks like this? talk...

Are more positive than negative. a new poll by gallup finds 49% of people view bush favorably compared to 46% who have an unfavorable opinion. a stunning revelation coming from the head of the catholic church. pope francis says there is a gay lobby at the vatican. the remark came during a weekend meeting with church leaders from latin america and the caribbean. the pope mentioned the gay lobby as part of a stream of corruption within the church's central bureaucracy. the rome bureau chief and "newsweak" and "daily beast" correspondent. welcome. what does pope francis mean by a gay lobby? >> ...

I think he is he is saying that he wanted to be on the program. it does give the administration an out to stop talking about the program. then there was a state department employee that has been charged with leaking documents. the focus goes away from the alleged wrong doing and now to these individuals. >> your assessment of what he said in the last part of the interview? >> well the problem is he's not a true whistle blower.

Of night in lame duck. >> he says this is leadership. >> bologna. >> reporter: and democrats will also go after the language in the bill. the president had a preplanned appearance scheduled for michigan on monday. jon: mike tobin lye -- live in chicago, thanks. heather: he is accused of leaking documents to the wikileaks web site, but army lawyers for private bradley manning continue their push to have the case dismissed. why manning says he was mistreated during his confinement in the military brig. plus, a medical breakthrough in the fight against alzheimer's disease. the new treatment tha...

Information important. >> the dean backet from the "new york times" made this point, right that essentially now we are having a discussion not about the substance of the stories which have some very important and interesting revelations but about the -- >> friday talking about this on air with alex's show. >> now with alex wagner, every day monday through friday. i got a phone call with someone in the administration, very, very sensitive to what we were saying on air and a surreal conversation, we went back and forth. at the end, he is like, look, we might prosecute, there might be a case agai...