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Decisions. not go on certain interviews. i think we will see him branch out a little more without her in the west wing to tell him not to do something. >> and there is a new profile suggesting the chief of staff was dismissive of her. he called her the high schooler. he joked she was in over her head. what do you make of all that? >> i was in the white house for two years. and i've never seen, there was never this type of drama. we were talking about this earlier. it is the survivor meets "the apprentice" meets "game of thrones." you have staff who are stabbing each in the back. leaking things...

Media, pornography, in those raids. so i was not surprised. i mean, it's all part of just how hypocritical -- here's this guy who claims to be a religious warrior. he's got three wives practically imprisoned in his compound and he's watching dirty movies. >> i'm going to play devil's advocate, because there will be some how there who say, and they will be critical of me for even playing devil's advocate, that this could somehow be part of u.s. disinformation. that they're trying to smear bin laden and would say this even though it's not true? >> no, there are legal restrictions on what informa...

pornography. this in the hideaway of a self-described religious warrior who says the united states and the west are immoral and godless. let's assess the importance of these new revelations with michael shoier, and with our national homeland security adviser, fran townsend. michael, let me start, i guess it's no surprise that the leader of al qaeda would want the president of the united states dead. but it's startling and jolting a bit to hear what written communications, plural, in which bin laden discusses his desire to have the president of the united states assassinated? >> i don...