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>> mr. gardner wishes to enter a plea of not guilty to both counts and deny the allegations that are attached thereto. >> larry: can a person like mr. gardner, in your opinion, robin, be helped? >> mr. gardner cannot be helped. the only thing that we can do is help victims and help everybody that we don't know about that he's assaulted. >> katie, do you think he can be helped? >> no, i don't think he can be helped and i think he should be put away or get the death penalty, absolutely. i think there needs to be an effort for victims of this man that have not come forward and victims of garrido ...

>> larry: marc klaas, why does this go out? >> first of all, i think we have to listen to the experts. as dr. kalish said, he's been in business 30 years doing these kinds of assessments. we've taken it to another level. larry, in 2006, californians passed jessica's law. among other things, the law mandates that any violent predator being considered for release first must have an expert evaluation by two psychiatrists or psychologists. if that expert panel feels that the prisoner is a sexual predator with a high expectation of reoffense, it has to be sent to the district attorney. civil commit...