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>> please. >> in pyongyang, and in washington, you have two leaders, both who are known for their tough rhetoric and brash talk and sometimes rashness in action. and so i think what we have had here is something in which both capitals have moved rather modestly. so the test that the north koreans were going to do, everyone expected them to test something at some point, they had already conducted roughly 24 tests, missile tests and the last year, they're not going to stop. but they didn't test an engine or a missile related to the icbm program they have. i think that was an effort to sort of st...