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We're hearing it here in briefings, over at the white house where they say they have utter confidence in nato's ability to carry this out. in the same breath, you have the statement coming from secretary clinton, who by the way, is in germany at yet another nato meeting, and she is describing exactly what you were talking about, a horrible -- as ben was talking about, a horrible situation in misurata. people, she said, deliberate attempt to starve people out. so if the mission is going well, as the administration says, then, again, why are the people in misurata in such terrible situation? >> ...

Gadhafi military and the gadhafi forces being a learning enemy, that they are learning -- they've adapted their tactics. the same cannot be said for the opposition forces. they do not seem to be a learning force. >> reporter: no, no, not at all. in fact, they seem to be learning almost nothing. certainly compared to the gadhafi forces who have changed their tactics completely. initially they were using tanks and heavy weaponry. now they're running around in the desert in pickup trucks, almost indistinguishable from the rebels. the rebels don't seem to be learning anything, and it seems even th...

Way, is in germany at yet another nato meeting, and she is describing exactly what you were talking about, a horrible -- as ben was talking about, a horrible situation in misurata. people, she said, deliberate attempt to starve people out. so if the mission is going well, as the administration says, then, again, why are the people in misurata in such terrible situation? >> ben, general kimmett made an interesting point about the kadz military and the gadhafi forces being a learning enemy, that they are -- that they've adapted their tactics. the same cannot be said for the opposition forces. th...

The same cannot be said for the opposition forces. they do not seem to be a learning force. >> reporter: no, no, not at all. in fact, they seem to be learning almost nothing. certainly compared to the gadhafi forces, who have changed their tactics completely. initially, they were using tanks and heavy weaponry. now they're running around in the desert in pickup trucks, almost indistinguishable from the rebels. the rebels, however, don't seem to be learning anything. and it seems that even the level of enthusiasm seems to be draining off a bit because they've realized, at least in this part of ...