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Have criticized the mueller investigation from the beginning about being overreached, that he's exceeded the mandate the justice department gave him to explore what occurred here. and what we're seeing now is the learning process the fbi itself went through, first seeing russian intrusions in the election and then indications a lot of it targeted hillary clinton. lo and behold there appeared to be people in the trump administration who are participating in it. and to the point they think trump himself is an actor in the event and pose as national security event. that is very, very important. t...

Come in, don't beat your relationships, they're not staying quiet. it's not just as progressives, they're doing what progressives have done before, they're doing it in a very public way and they are making waves from day one? >> well, that is true. but i also think there is a growing process and learning process that's going to happen fairly quickly when they realize in order to have people assigned on to their legislation and supporting what they're doing that they will have to build their relationships. but that's a learning process and it will happen. but at the same time, some of our conve...

Do you think most people -- forget about the elites, do you think most people still believe that? >> i hope so. polls indicate that young people are increasingly estranged from capitalism. i think largely because of a great government effort to guarantee futures through the student loan program. $1.5 trillion of guaranteed money for students. those aren't really loans. loans require a bank to scrutinize the borrower and it's an intelligent learning process in capitalism. this is guaranteed money for the university system, and the university system took the money and ran. students ended up payi...

It has to be falsifiable. you have to be able to disprove your learning process, and if you can't, if it's guaranteed by the government, it prohibits learning, and thus stifles economic growth. mark: and what is -- i've never quite understood, we have this debate about net neutrality. sounds counterintuitive to me. what is net neutrality? >> a scheme of price controls for the internet. you know, the only thing that really matters with regard to whether all the various bits and bites are treated equally across the internet is how much bandwidth there is. if there's a lot of investment in bandwi...

Country today most people still believe that? . y> if the polls indicate young people are estranged from capitalism i think largely because of the great government effort to guarantee the future through the student loan program one.$5 trillion guaranteed money for students those are not really loans. loans require a bank to scrutinize with the intelligent learning process this is guaranteed money for the university system that took the money and ran