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Prejudge what happened in this case, we shouldn't jump to conclusion buzz we definitely, you're right, need to make sure that we have -- we don't want to just throw kids like this in the trash and say and wipe our hands of them. we need to get them into programs that can get them the help they need and get them back on track. we are so woefully inadequate in this country and have pitiful funding that unfortunately keeps getting cut after cut after cut. unaccept credible. >> thank you debbie wasserman-schultz, nearby congressional and frank figliuzzi for the wonderful thinking. we're joined by ...

And it shows up very much in his contact with that woman. these are people, in some cases, who have lost everything. they don't have houses. you know, they don't have furniture or clothes. she is the straw. and the president connects with her very, very easily. and i think that people across the country seeing that footage will remember that and understand that this is a president who can connect with ordinary americans. >> well, thank you very much. u.s. congressman frank and thanks for coming on "hardball" and cynthia tucker, thanks as always. by the way, politics is always a learning profes...

Not really true. because arthur schlesinger, the great historian, said that politics is essentially a learning profession. you have to learn it. it's the reason why people reach a certain maturity and choose to run for president. they know how to lead people. all these things are true. he has enormous self-confidence. he has no jewish guilt or catholic guilt. i wish i was as guilt-free as this guy. he offers statements like i've never done anything inappropriate in my life. he states things like this with complete confidence? is there any veracity to a guy who says i don't speak cuban? it woul...

Depression. we didn't sell it. he didn't sell it. we need such a different political agenda in this country. neither party establishment level party is offering it. >> i think there's another issue here, which is stability. i really do think it is a learning profession. bill clinton everybody said was a natural. why did he get defeated for attorney general, for lieutenant governor? you have to learn how to lead people. sometimes people learn it in the military. i guess you could learn it in business. but these guys are amateurs. they're not great leaders. who has to follow newt gingrich in the...

>> okay, but people aren't stupid, though. >> do americans want that in a president? >> people aren't stupid. i think they do try to find a reason, a safe way through this difficult time we're in. and that includes conservative republicans. they're trying to find a rational way away from obama. back to you, john. you said something really smart about growth. i do think that's what people look for. they look for it in president obama. most people who like obama, and i like him, are hoping that he will be able to demonstrate by next year growth. that there are things he may have done differently...