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dump them in another state, so-called sanctuary cities so that they can figure it out. what i just described is exactly the strategy of some republicans governors on the far right of this divide, governors like you see on the screen, governor greg abbott of texas and ron desantis of florida. the latter declaring quote, every community in america should be sharing in the burdens. it shouldn't fall on a handful of red states. the real question is, for many americans out there, do you think desantis is right? we're going to hash that out in moment here. buz was it right for he and abbot...

When it means they don't have the same viewpoint as relates to overseas. but i wonder, in thinking about this, this idea of distribution of what he calls, what they have called the burden. is that a winning argument among the republican electorate or even independents who are coveted? >> in the republican electorate, it is a massively popular argument to make. it's not even that it's not a solution, it's not designed to be a solution. >> right. >> it's designed to be a ploy or a stunt -- i tend to be pro political stunts, by the way. >> but not this one. >> this is clearly using people for paw...