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Goes to a conference committee. this is the legislative process. that's why i keep asking folks, you and your colleagues and folks on the hill, it's important to concentrate on the folks affected by that. that's the patients and moms and dads across this land who aren't able to gain the kind of care they need with the current system on the exchange. you have governors across this nation who tell us they aren't able to care for their medicaid population, their full neshl population in the way they see fit because of all the rules and regulations. that's where we're going to concentrate our effo...

Millions of people will lose their coverage with this latest plan, what do you tell people who are worried about that and who say, you know what? the devil we know is better and i'd like to stick with what we have? >> i would tell people that what the cbo looked at was not the plan. what the cbo looked at was this one piece of legislation that's going to change through the ledgelyive process and they made an estimate. understanding their estimates in the past have been off by significant numbers. the plan is this piece of legislation and the kinds of rules and regulatory modifications that we'...

Place other pieces of legislation so you can purchase insurance across state lines, bring about medical malpractice lawsuit abuse reform, do the kinds of things that will drive down premium costs for folks so they're actually able to afford a coverage plan that works for them. >> dr. price, your goals sound lofty and good. in some ways, is all of this an exercise in futility? all of this hand ringing today, because even if it does pass, even if you are able to cajole the recalcitrant republicans on the fence, that's just the house. it still goes to the senate whereby all measure, this bill wil...

People understand on the hill, these are the things that everybody need to understand to make sure patients are in charge and not washington, d.c. this is where we need to drive down the decision making to individuals. that's how they know the care will be right for them. >> sounds a little bit like what you're saying is you have to pass it today to know what's in it? >> no, you can see what's in it. we've been very, very transparent about it. >> meaning it's going to change. you're saying it's going to morph so much, this is the first step. you have to pass it today for the first step and the...