place other pieces of legislation so you can purchase insurance across state lines, bring about medical malpractice lawsuit abuse reform, do the kinds of things that will drive down premium costs for folks so they're actually able to afford a coverage plan that works for them. >> dr. price, your goals sound lofty and good. in some ways, is all of this an exercise in futility? all of this hand ringing today, because even if it does pass, even if you are able to cajole the recalcitrant republicans on the fence, that's just the house. it still goes to the senate whereby all measure, this bill will fail. >> that's the legislative process. what i will tell you is a true exercise in futility is keeping the current system. the current system is failing patients. that's what we need to remember. you have states across the land that aren't able to put in place