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violent actions. you'll also hear from stephen ayres who was directly influenced by president trump's tweet to travel to washington for a day he said would be wild. >> and there is immense pressure on the committee today in what could be a put up or shut up moment to prove to the nation that there is a direct link between former president donald trump and those extremists responsible for the chaos at the capitol. there's a lot of expectation on new video clips of former white house counsel pat cipollone from his nearly eight-hour deposition last week. what did he tell the committee a...

Had said. so it's sort of a legalese answer and the committee has been very purposeful in their language around that. but i will say what raskin told us is the furthest we've had a committee member go. and raskin was largely in the hearing room, in the room with cipollone for most of those eight hours so he was someone hearing this firsthand. i do think when we think about the ways former trump administration officials have been used, they want to get us as close in the room as possible. that meeting is going to be important and they're going to highlight but they're building upon bringing in ...

Has to and will operate by that statute. you know, there are a lot of monday morning quarterbacks in the terrorism business. >> if i could just interject. going back to what john mccain objected to when he talked about her statement, whether -- an answer that he said was disqualifying. i think that goes to your point, that if this should happen again and there is a conversation behind the scenes about torture that she personally would come forward and say, i'm not doing this again. it's her legalese answer. you heard a lot of democrats yesterday say that answer was particularly disturbing in o...

Campaign wasn't more forthcoming about this? >> i think that mark elias, representing the campaign and the dnc, his firm was the one funding this. so certainly he gave a legalese answer to reporters off the record and on the record. and that's been corrected through this reporting. but it wasn't something that we were talking about on the campaign. there were no meetings we were talking about a dossier. we were not aware of this dossier at certainly my level and as reported, brian fallon reported yesterday he was not aware of it either. >> brian fallon tweeted, i regret i didn't know about chr...

Political decision. we rely on our foreign friends and allies and partners to give us intelligence. if they turn off that intel j , intelligen intelligence, if they don't trust us, we're going partially blind. >> we're in a situation with the white house where there seems to be a critical situation one after another after another. when you talk to the folks on capitol hill, and i'm saying democrats as well as republicans, the one, for lack of a better phrase, bright spot that they would point to would be the national security team. there was a lot of confidence on the hill, a lot of confidence...