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The question though is what? >> saying you want to do something and actually doing something, so what is the current reality on capitol hill? >> it's more wanting to do something. and i think that's really important to note. again, a legislative push opens up a whole list of potential problems for republicans who are staunch second amendment supporters, when you look at technical details. how do you write legislative language. could you perhaps go too far, open the door to a less friendly administration to expand regulations. that is a real concern here. take a listen to house speaker paul rya...

An economic case. half of those are merit-based. 6.5% or something. having an immigration system that matches more with what canada or australia does, it's long overdue. >> bret: new green card recipients, you look at, no stats for 2016 yet. 2015, about 1,051,000 new green card recipients. you look at how many green card holders are here in the u.s., this goes back to 2014, 13,200,000. charles, big issue and won the white house thinks they can have a win on. >> long overdue. if you make the case, it's an easy one to make and it would prevail. it would take time but you have to make the case. i...

With trump, it's going to happen with the annex and administration. but the policy is a good one, the russians have to be punished. the idea that we are restricting and holding trump back from negotiating so cleverly and astutely with russia on other things, we haven't gotten anything from russia, particularly on syria for example. where we negotiated so-called cease and fire. where the russians were going to be the ones imposing it, that astute negotiation -- i do agree that the president has gotten it right. although, i love that sarah huckabee sanders said we did this in the name of nationa...

Well-connected. they sever the least from the immigration policy. the rest of the country, interacting with some problems that come with not having a solid immigration policy, these are the people crying out shut down for decades. >> bret: speaking of interaction, i want to play some of the interaction from the white house briefing room with stephen miller. interesting. >> this notion of, they have to learn english before they get into the united states, are we just going to bring in people from great britain and australia? >> i'm shocked that your statement that you think that only people fro...

It's good to do as the consultation states, let the president have that as a negotiating tool. those are very important right now, because we have, with russia, they are making an alliance with china, something we should find threatening. we need their help in syria, we need to help with iran, with venezuela, we have a lot of interest guiding us there, and to hamstring this and make it more difficult to have worked with this very serious adversary, it is a bad idea, and no one is talking about that. >> you don't think they should be punished at all for what they did in the 2016 election? >> th...