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Some p.r. that can be done, but they're going to have to grapple with the policy choices that i think the american people, frankly, are pretty unhappy with right now. as you pointed out, pam, the numbers in the quinnipiac survey on immigration are just atrocious. it's because of what people are saying and i think they're reacting negatively to the policy choices that have been made. >> let's talk about what's been going on in the republican party, scott, before i let you go. a top republican in the house, steve scalise, went on fox this morning and wouldn't say if he believes biden won the 202...

Elections. i want to ask a specific question. do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? and continuing to make that charge, not having states do election reforms but specifically making this charge that the election was stolen. do you think that that hurts, undermines american democracy? >> well, chris, i've been very clear from the beginning. if you look at a number of states, they didn't follow state passed laws that governed the election for president. that's what the united states constitution says. they don't say that the states determine what the rules are, they say st...

Steve scalise when he was asked whether or not he believes that donald trump lost the election and when there was, you know, a scam, a cover-up, all false, listen to this. >> do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? >> chris, i've been very clear from the beginning if you look at a number of states they didn't follow their state passed laws that govern the election for -- >> so you think the election was stolen. >> >> i said there are states that didn't follow their legislatively set rules. >> last time, do you think the election was stolen or not? >> it's not just regulati...