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I tend to think that the russians were more interested in sowing chaos than tipping the election one way or the other. but he sure does have a knack for making himself look guilty. and that's kind of the -- i mean, he's done it throughout all this entire time. he's acted in such a way that makes it difficult for people like me who find the whole scenario of russia actually changing the election implausible, just because of the way he acts. >> doesn't it include -- this sort of weird extra meeting with vladimir putin is on. if you're somebody who is concerned that russia is making you look bad,...

Living before he was president of the united states? real estate, and the reality tv show. >> it's significant also that the other figure, i guess we've settled on a number on the meeting with donald trump jr., right? we aren't waiting for -- >> as we know. as far as we know. >> yeah. i mean, we haven't got a leak now that the bolshoi was performing in the living room while they were having this meeting. the guy was looked into for money laundering. if i were a russian -- i don't know there's any real distinction anymore between russian government officials and russian organized crime, but if ...

Getting poignan questions about heal care. one thing that's come up over the past couple months is that people are beginning to appreciate the patient protection part of the affordable care act. the affordable care act as it came to be known sort of oversold the affordable part, frankly, but the patient protection part is something that affects a lot more americans approximate. >> i will say the closing thought here is that, if they turn back to the agenda, i don't think there's a tremendous amount of clamoring for that health care bill or the tax cuts, frankly. i'm not sure pivoting back into...

Russian investigation. who knows what will happen tomorrow, or even in the next five minutes. but we're going to take a few minutes just to talk about all of this with sam cedar and leon wolf right after this break.

Who knows what will happ tomorrow, or even in the next five minutes. but we're going to take a few minutes just to talk about all of this with sam cedar and leon wolf right after this break.